{"id":23052,"date":"2025-09-22T10:40:50","date_gmt":"2025-09-22T10:40:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/naijaglobalnews.org\/?p=23052"},"modified":"2025-09-22T10:40:50","modified_gmt":"2025-09-22T10:40:50","slug":"six-world-leaders-on-navigating-climate-change-without-the-u-s","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/naijaglobalnews.org\/?p=23052","title":{"rendered":"Six World Leaders on Navigating Climate Change, Without the U.S."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\n<\/p>\n<p>The Marshall Islands, scattered in the Pacific Ocean between Hawaii and Papua New Guinea, consists of five main islands and 29 atolls \u2014 small low-lying islands formed by coral reefs. The total land mass is roughly the size of Washington, D.C., and the average height above sea level for the entire country is just seven feet. President Hilda C. Heine, who is serving a second stint in office, has spent much of her career working to sound the alarm about rising temperatures. But with each year, the challenges grow. Mosquito-borne diseases have spread because of more frequent rainfall. The islands\u2019 economy relies on the sale of tuna that foreign fishing fleets catch in their waters; now tuna are leaving for cooler parts of the Pacific. Many young residents are moving abroad. And as the planet continues to warm and glaciers melt, this tiny country may be among the first to be swallowed by the sea. Read the interview<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-wbgwfj\"><strong>How is climate change affecting the Marshall Islands? <\/strong>We will be submerged by 2050 if the world doesn\u2019t do its part. We have a population of around 37,000. Ten years ago, we had closer to 50,000.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-wbgwfj\"><strong>And what is driving that migration? <\/strong>One reason is that when we have regular inundations, some people, rather than rebuilding their homes, decide to go away and settle in the U.S.<strong> <\/strong>Sea-level rise is becoming scary for many of us.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-wbgwfj\"><strong>Do you think your citizens make a direct connection between things like rising seas, airborne diseases and climate change? <\/strong>Yes, this conversation has been ongoing for many years. We have climate change in our curriculum. So our kids are growing up understanding the issues. People know that big emitters \u2014 the rich countries \u2014 are causing this, that we have no contribution to the greenhouse-gas emissions that are destroying the world and our livelihood. Our people are not complacent, but they have accepted the fact that big inequities exist and powerful countries get away with unacceptable behaviors. We are used to that mentality and attitude, since we have lived with the impact of the U.S. nuclear-testing program on our islands for 70 years.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-wbgwfj\"><strong>What do you think developed nations owe countries like the Marshall Islands? <\/strong>The plan for elevating only two of our communities is projected to cost us billions. It\u2019s a lot of money. I wish that the big emitters could step up and put money into that, because that could really help.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-wbgwfj\"><strong>Do you feel differently about what international collaboration on climate change can accomplish now than you did at the beginning of your career? <\/strong>I have a positive outlook, despite everything that is happening. I think the fact that we are sitting at the table now \u2014 before, you know, it wasn\u2019t as easy to be part of the discussions. The small-island developing states have been able to organize themselves and to be heard.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-wbgwfj\"><strong>What has participating in those discussions been like for you? <\/strong>This is the 10th year of the Paris Agreement, and we\u2019ve been hearing the same excuses from big emitters. You know, they\u2019re very comfortable, and they don\u2019t want to move from their comfort level.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-wbgwfj\"><strong>What impact does the U.S. withdrawal from Paris have on the world\u2019s ability to take action on this issue? <\/strong>It\u2019s unfortunate that the U.S. has decided to step out of Paris. But there are those who rally together, because there are no other options for them. And so I think people are coming together stronger than before because you cannot rely on the U.S. in this respect. Something positive is happening, even though it\u2019s not at the level that the Marshall Islands and other small developing countries have been advocating.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text g-pullquoteblock svelte-wbgwfj\"><span class=\"g-quote\">\u2018Big emitters are very comfortable, and they don\u2019t want to move from their comfort level.\u2019<\/span> <span class=\"g-quote-attribution\"\/><\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-wbgwfj\"><strong>What specific steps are you taking in the Marshall Islands to combat the effects of climate change? <\/strong>The warming of the ocean is killing our corals, which are building blocks of atoll nations. We are currently doing research to determine species of corals that can survive the warming ocean. Big emitters could provide research. Even though we are not contributing to emission levels, we are doing what we can to decrease greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. We are building a fleet of ships that use wind and solar power to replace our fossil-fuel-run shipping fleet. <\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-wbgwfj\"><strong>Do you think your country will survive? <\/strong>As the leader of the Marshall Islands, I cannot take the view that we cannot survive. One important thing we\u2019ve done is register our boundaries with the United Nations, making sure that the world recognizes our boundaries, regardless of whether we\u2019re underwater or above water. So in that respect, the country will survive.<\/p>\n<p class=\"g-text  svelte-wbgwfj\"><strong>What are some of the changes your people have had to make to their daily lives as you navigate all this? <\/strong>Seven years ago, Majuro had no sea walls. Now we build sea walls to protect homes and schools. I mean, we used to be able to just walk into the lagoon. Now you have to go over sea walls to get to the lagoon side or to the ocean side. The landscape is different. I\u2019ll share a poem that was put together by my daughter, Kathy Jetn\u0304il-Kijiner. It\u2019s a reflection on how people are feeling about what\u2019s happening.<\/p>\n<p><em>My cousin<\/em><br \/><em>had a nightmare<\/em><br \/><em>that we kept<\/em><br \/><em>building seawalls<\/em><br \/><em>higher and<\/em><br \/><em>higher<\/em><br \/><em>all around<\/em><br \/><em>our island<\/em><br \/><em>up to<\/em><br \/><em>the sky<\/em><br \/><em>until suddenly<\/em><br \/><em>we were<\/em><br \/><em>at the bottom<\/em><br \/><em>of a wishing well<\/em><br \/><em>looking<\/em><br \/><em>up<\/em><br \/><em>at the world.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Marshall Islands, scattered in the Pacific Ocean between Hawaii and Papua New Guinea, consists of five main islands and 29 atolls \u2014 small low-lying islands formed by coral reefs. 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